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8. Меня постоянно обманывают по Интернету – не звонят, хотя я даю свой телефон…
Ага, и такое случается только по Интернету. Радость узнавания, эйфория, трепет ожидания звонка, злость на того, кто не позвонил… Вы уверены, что девушка, с которой вы познакомились в супермаркете, на самом деле живет одна и много работает? Кто вам сказал, что симпатичный парень из кофейни на самом деле состоятельный банкир, а не менеджер по продажам зубных протезов? И разве каждый мужчина в пиджаке от Gucci, который обещает золотые горы – одинокий миллионер? Будьте всегда немножко настороже, знакомясь по Интернету или в реальной жизни. Доверяйте своим инстинктам, и если что-то кажется странным, постарайтесь закруглить общение до выяснения всех деталей.
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Does anyone Know of an online course to build a solar panel for the home? I need a course that will walk you through the process, as I am a beginner at this. I’ve seen a few courses online that look good but I would like some advice by people who have actually tried some of them.

Thanks

Report that e-bikes are finally law. No comment on e-scooters as yet.

Until we really incorporate the ideas of community as a building design, I think we’ll always be following someone else’s plan, not making one ourselves.

I also hope we can be more earnest

From above:

Transport Canada is the federal agency responsible for establishing vehicle standards and requirements for all vehicles that are manufactured or imported into Canada. Transport Canada has determined that a power-assisted bicycle is a vehicle that:
* has sterring handlebars and pedals;
* is capable of being propelled primarily by muscular power and to travel on not more than three wheels;
* has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, a power output rating of 500W or less and is incapable of propelling the cycle at a speed of 32km/h or greater on level ground, without pedaling; and;
* bears a permanently affixed label by the manufacturer stating in both official languages that the vehicle conforms to the federal definition of a power-assisted bicycle.

That’s it.

If that’s the case, it changes what i’d be buying! I’m not into a mountain bike with a battery on it – but that’s just me. I’m happy other people like them. I like a little more scooter styling.

glossary from ont legislature: http://tinyurl.com/mbu624

“Proclamation

An official public announcement; refers to the date a law comes into force set by cabinet and proclaimed by the Lieutenant Governor-in-Council. ”

Here’s the big list of unproclaimed laws: http://tinyurl.com/nuctnm with “Road Safety Act, 2009″ showing its status.

It would appear then MTO is indeed waiting until October for the pilot projects to end first. If we’re lucky the current Bill 126 after October will become law for at least e-bikes.

Otherwise the e-scooters are looking like they’ll need their own amendment. It comes down to those cheesy pedals. If they have to be able to do meaningful work then that will be a problem. If the pedal condition is removed though, then the speed and bike lane requirement would be enough.

We’ll have to wait until October.

On July 2nd 2009, I received a letter reply regarding an email I sent on e-scooters and Bill 126 having received royal assent.

However in the letter, there was a comment that ended up confusing the point. “”"Bill 126, the Road Safety Act, 2009, which received royal assent on April 23, 2009, contains several items related to e-bikes. However, the Bill has not yet been proclaimed.”"”

From the Legislature website there is no further step to become law after royal assent.

Therefore, please indicate what you mean by the word “proclaimed” as this appears to prevaricate the royal assent from April 23rd to July 2nd? Please indicate if Bill 126 is currently as of August 23 2009 law or not? If there are further steps please indicate what those are.

I’m lead to be confused that the Legislature website would indicate that the bill became law on April 23rd but the letter from July 2nd says it has not been “proclaimed”.

Best Regards,
Walter

Note that from my email dated on June 16, 2009 at 10:13 am (shown above) I was requesting the status of e-scooters and not e-bikes but they answered for both. Also although the Highway Traffic Act Bill 126 had royal assent on April 23rd, they state that it is not “proclaimed” in the July letter. The Legislature website however notes that there is no proclaiming step and royal assent is law. Looks like I’ll have to ask them for clarification on what they mean as this appears to be another prevarication.

Short version: Wait until October 3rd 2009 before knowing the status of electric scooters, otherwise any e-bike that can be used similarly as a bike are just fine. It would appear that since the law is grey up until then scooters are legal as a pilot project only. Note that by my calendar October 3rd is a Saturday so probably Monday October 5th.

Ready?

“”"Ministry of Transportation

Safety Policy and Education Branch
Main Floor, Building A, Roon 212
1201 Wilson Avenue
Downsview, Ontario
M3M 1J8

July 2nd 2009,

Dear —,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the status of power-assisted bicycles (also known as electric or e-bikes). The Honourable Jim Bradley, Minister of Transportation, has asked me to respond on his behalf.

Effective October 3, 2006, the Province of Ontario began a three-year pilot project to evaluate the use of power-assisted bicycles (also known as electric bikes or e-bikes) on roads and highways where conventional bicycles are currently allowed. The e-bike pilot is currently scheduled to expire October 3, 2009.

Ontario adopted the federal definition of a power-assisted bicycle, which only permits vehicles that conform to the federal Motor Vehicle Safety Act regulations and that are labelled as a “power-assisted bicycle” to be eligible for the e-bike pilot.

Transport Canada is the federal agency responsible for establishing vehicle standards and requirements for all vehicles that are manufactured or imported into Canada. Transport Canada has determined that a power-assisted bicycle is a vehicle that:
* has sterring handlebars and pedals;
* is capable of being propelled primarily by muscular power and to travel on not more than three wheels;
* has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, a power output rating of 500W or less and is incapable of propelling the cycle at a speed of 32km/h or greater on level ground, without pedaling; and;
* bears a permanently affixed label by the manufacturer stating in both official languages that the vehicle conforms to the federal definition of a power-assisted bicycle.

-2-

Bill 126, the Road Safety Act, 2009, which received royal assent on April 23, 2009, contains several items related to e-bikes. However, the Bill has not yet been proclaimed. The items in the Bill include amendments to the Highway Traffic Act definition of “bicycle” to include e-bikes. E-bikes themselves are defined to clarity that they must have operable pedals attached and must be capable of being propelled only by muscular power. The current pilot’s minimum age of 16 and the requirement that everyone operating/riding an e-bike must wear a helmet have been retained in the Bill as well as the regulation making powers that would define further e-bike operating requirements.

The regulation-making powers may or may not impact e-bikes that resemble scooters. Safety concerns primarily associated with scooter style e-bikes (e.g.; size, weight, braking, operation, enforcement) persist and, therefore, a final decision has not yet been made.

The ministry will be determining which additional operating and equipment requirements should be included in the regulations prior to the e-bike pilot expiry of October 3, 2009.

The ministry’s website: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/emerging , will also be updated, as appropriate.

Again, thank you for your e-mail.

Sincerely,
BM
Director

C: Hon. Jim Bradley, Minister of Transportation,”"”

The thing is the pedals on the scooter are useless and that gives the Ministry ire to not be specific on scooters. Any further questions just replies with the same platitudes so I guess we’ll see what happens in two months when the pilot is officially ended.

That worries me when they’ve already stated that they believe a certain class of vehicles might not fit the spirit of the law.

E-bikes are okay but the question regarding e-scooters appears to be in quasi-acceptance until the fall. There have been no major items floated in the news though, so I suspect they’ll make an announcement.

Feel free to bother the MTO website for a response on this point as I have. The more mail requests they have from different sources the better.

The scooters have cheap pedals to the sides but they appear quite useless given the weight of the vehicle. I’d prefer a blanket acceptance of electric powered vehicles at a fixed rate of speed etc. If we get our own versions of “Juice points” like London UK has had since 2002 though, that might alleviate the stranding of scooters if they can recharge when parked.

Thanks for link and comments!

Do you have a few examples of scooter-style e-bikes so I know what you’re talking about? Would it be something like the ecoped city45 by chance?

From the power-assisted bicycle FAQ: ( http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/emerging/e-bike-faq.shtml ) it’s noted that e-scooters follow the law but not the intent of the law regarding electric power assisted bicycles in Ontario.

The pilot project is over and amendments to Bill 126 are now law to include power-assisted bicycles since Royal Assent on April 23rd. However the status of e-scooters in Ontario since this is neither noted in the law nor on the MTO site.

Therefore what is the legal status of e-scooters in Ontario? Does MTO consider e-scooters as power-assisted bicycles?

Thank you
Walter

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/emerging/e-bike-faq.shtml

–the maximim speed 32km/h
–ride in bike lane only
–treated like a bike, but must wear helmet

“”"Power-assisted bicycle (e-bike)

* Has steering handlebars and is equipped with pedals
* Is designed to be propelled primarily by muscular power and to travel on not more than three wheels
* Has a motor that has a power output rating of 500W or less (note: the motor is electric, and is incapable of propelling the cycle at speed of 32km/h or greater on level ground, without pedaling.)
* Must bear label indicating vehicle as a “Power-Assisted Bicycle”.”"”

However there is a wrinkle that has not been addressed by the legislation. The Canadian-Tire type e-bike appears fine but the e-scooter is a bit grey

“”"27. I see many vehicles that look like scooters advertised as e-bikes. Are they really e-bikes?

The intent of the ministry’s pilot was to allow e-bikes that look and operate like conventional bikes in order to promote a safe, healthy and environmentally friendly alternative to current transportation modes.

The ministry has become aware of scooter-style vehicles that technically meet the pilot’s e-bike definition, but not the intent, as they are not primarily operated by muscular power due to their heavy weight. Therefore, in addition to evaluating how safely the e-bike can integrate with other motor vehicles, bicycles and pedestrians, the emergence of the scooter-style e-bikes requires the ministry to also assess if the pilot’s original intent continues to be appropriate. The ministry will clarify its position on the original intent of the pilot when final legislation is drafted. “”"